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Friday, April 20, 2007

Consequences of Believing in Determinism

What consequences would a belief in determinism have for one's life? Both Noa Latham and Peter Strawson gave some suggestions of some possible consequences. Noa distinguished fatalism and determinism, and considered consequences in punishing or rewarding if determinism is true. On the other hand, Strawson suggested we should but cannot treat or feel everything in an objective “theoretical conviction”. Latham’s and Strawson’s ideas are similar, and if there is an objective fact of right and wrong, their ideas are very plausible.
I will introduce Latham’s two recommendations in the first three paragraphs, and then I will bring in Strawson’s ideas. Secondly, I will compare these two main arguments and give some suggestion and possible solutions.
As Latham mentioned, if determinism is true, should we think that we do not need to make an effort to do things because the consequences are already determined? Latham said no because this idea expresses that no matter what we do now, the future will not change, which is obvious false. It is called fatalism in the article, and fatalism is not as the same as determinism. Also, fatalism can be understood that every particular state at particular time is fated, so whatever we do is already determined and inevitable, and the future is also determined and inevitable. This expression of fatalism is just determinism, so we still need to work hard to achieve the goal although whether we work hard or not is determined and whether we can achieve the goal is also determined. (Latham, p.74)
Latham also suggested that if determinism is true, and if there is an objective fact of right (just) or wrong (unjust), then we should reconsider our motivation of punishing and rewarding people. For example, if person A killed person B, should we say that A is justified to be punished for the murder? Latham argued that if determinism is true, divine punishing or rewarding after someone’s life is unjust because what would happen in their life is inevitable before they are born. Then for the murdering, what A would do is inevitable, such that for person A, all the past experiences, events, and surroundings forced him to kill B, so he cannot choose to do anything other than kill B and there is no chance for A to undermine the event. As a result, A should not take all the responsibilities and we are not justified in punishing him purely because of what he did. Similarly, it is unjustified to reward somebody simply because of his previous actions. (Latham, p.75)
Consequently, Latham claimed that it is implausible to say there is “a moral truth that there is something intrinsically good about punishing vice and rewarding virtue.” Then there is a further question: should we avoid or abandon all punishments and rewards? No. We should not do this because although those considerations of retribution and desert are unjust, we can still punish or reward people to induce their further actions. To explain this, we do not want the crime to happen often, so punishment is used to prevent the criminal from doing bad things again; also, punishment is able to warn others not to do the same thing. Consequently, we do need punishment and because of that, there are indeed not many crimes in the society. (Latham, p.75-76)
In Strawson’s point of view, we may abandon all reactive attitudes if determinism is true; conversely, that seems unpractical. Reactive attitudes, explained by Strawson, are attitudes and intentions that we attach our goodwill or bad will to because of the relationship between them and us, or because of other particular situations. For example, if your children did something wrong to you, you will not be eager to punish them or even feel very angry because they did not mean to do that. Nevertheless, if your enemy did something good to you, you will still doubt their purpose for doing this. As a result, some people think we should stop having reactive attitudes if we believing in determinism. However, Strawson also claimed that nobody can really abandon the reactive attitudes; and if we do so in a particular case, we still hardly say that is because of determinism. In short, there is nothing changes if we believe in determinism. (Latham, p.82-88)
Latham and Strawson both suggest making certain changes in our moral beliefs if determinism is true. Similarly, they both conclude that people do not need to change their actual activities and practical actions although they may adjust their way of thinking. The difference between their ideas is that Latham considered only the changes in how we should interpret the “punishing vice and rewarding virtue”, whereas Strawson suggested that other people may think all our reactive attitudes should be reconsidered, although that is unpractical. It seems that Latham’s opinion is a particular part in Strawson’s consideration, and it is more reasonable and practical to believe in this part.
This brings me to another question: Is there an objective fact of right or wrong? I will not challenge this topic here because it is too broad and the words are limited. However, if there is not an objective fact of right or wrong, then Latham’s second consideration of consequences in believing in determinism becomes unimportant, and this also explains the incompatible part in Strawson’s idea. To illustrate this, if right and wrong, just and unjust, are relevant, in Latham’s argument, punishing person A for the harmful thing he did to the society is always right and just to the society, and mostly wrong to A although determinism is true. Then we can simply explain that whatever purpose or reason for A to do anything, as long as what he did is harmful, he will be punished. Similar explanation for rewarding can be carries out in this situation. In Strawson’s case, if determinism is true, it is also good to hold the reactive attitudes because it benefits the person involved. For example, I will and I also should attach goodwill to my attitudes toward my friend if they did something good to me although I know they have to do this because having good attitudes toward friends is good, just, and beneficial to me. I will and I also should be angry to the person who offend me although he did not mean to do that because being angry to him is just for me for the reason that he is harmful to me. In Strawson’s examples of children, madmen, or specific conditions, we do not and should not angry or happy with them whatever they did because they will neither offend nor help us. If they did something harmful, there is always a person to take responsibility. In short, under the condition that no objective right or wrong exists, believing in determinism has no consequences. In conclusion, if determinism is true, Latham suggested that we should not do nothing but waiting for the determined consequences of our life. He also claimed that punishing or rewarding people for what they did is unjust concerning the determinism. Strawson argued that we should have some changes in attitudes toward others but we cannot really do this only because of determinism. Both Latham’s and Strawson’s arguments seemed plausible if there is an objective fact of right or wrong. If not, some part of their suggestions would need to be revised. Conclusively, Latham, Strawson and I would agree that if someone holds a belief in determinism, their actions would not actually change. This is important so that the reality of determinism increases, and determinism becomes more reasonable in this case.

Reference
Latham, N. PHIL 201 L03 & L 04 Book of Readings. (2007). Calgary: University of Calgary Bookstore.

Sunday, April 08, 2007

SO busy...

i cannot breath....
i keep playing
i feel tired...
Who can save me???

Thursday, March 01, 2007

f*y artificial intelligence

Are computers able to have intelligence? Why philosophers suffer from this topic!? Let the students who study the CPSC f* it! Go away!

Monday, February 05, 2007

The relationship between condoms& girls

Obviously, there are seriously relationships between these two objects: Condoms is sufficient to Girls, but Girls is necessary to Condoms! in another word, No Girl No Condom...
Girls need Condoms, for their happy and healthy, and to avoid making the earth heavier...
However... if there are too many condoms, girls will not exist... because the sperms need to meet the ovum to form a girl...
In addition, girls will love to play condoms if they cannot find a balloon when they are younger than 6...

Saturday, January 20, 2007

some thoughts

Never mind

Friday, December 01, 2006

12th blog of this semester

After i count the number of all my blogs in this term~ i found that i still need one more~ Damm...what should i talk about? Now there's nothing in my mind... i thinked too much the past days, and i felt really "empty"... after 1 hour, my roomate will come back and do something which needs my help, so i will be tired... then may chat with my friends on the internet if the wireless runs well... my internet will be ok on sunday. i have nothing to say... that's the only feeling i have... i have to say that it's much like the situation on year ago... i was blogging... and nobody around me... i was live on campus at that time so i won't feel loney although my roomate isn't near... now everything changed... and i am still blogging... i don't know what will happen in the future, i wish i can keep doing it... or maybe i'll give up because of the hardwork
Now it seems my future is not quite good... hard work are coming... i don't want to go forward... but i have to... for my family and myself...
there will be my final writing exam on Monday... ah~ i still worried about it a little bit. i may get a good mark, and i still have a chance to fail... i plan to practice and do some review on Saturday and Sunday... but i don't know if i will do it carefully... anyway, have a good day, everybody...

last week end of this semester

How time flies~ i think this semester seems goes so fast( it might because i don't have any hard work to do or maybe the class is so interesting) , and i never thought any term goes fast to me before. this is my third time of doing this kind of post. that's not a good news but i still can learn something when the days past( i think i might have learned). Yesterday i moved out from my old apartment( finally) and they charged me for about another 100 more dollars(before they have charged me for $1069...) because of the cleaning stuffs. As a result, i desided that i'll never live in a apartment in the following 3 years... In my school life, it goes well after i withdrawn my chem course... i think i can pass the Leap exam this time, because i studied hard(or i mean i had studied hard). acturally i'll neve hate my teachers, althought some friends did that, but i think i have not met a really bad evil teacher here... (don't kick me my friends...) moreover, my writing teacher is really good( i won't pass if i don't say that, so...)
Ah it's not the perfect for me to express my believes of destiny, and i have one more post to do...
Ah, now i'm facing a problem that i haven't transfer my old internet service to my new house, that might be done on Sunday... so i'll have to stop communicating with my friends on the internet. that's not good, but everything will be fine in the nearly future, i wish.

Wednesday, November 29, 2006

Moving

It was really cold yesterday, -32 degree celus i think. My big coats and thick clothes had been taken to the new house already, but i still live in my old apartment because there are still many things needed to be done such as cleaning and checking out. i planned to move all my stuffs out of this afternoon, so i need a big box to carry them although there are not many things left. However, my big box is in my new house, so i have to take it back from there. At that time, there's nobody in my new house and i didn't have a key, so i had called the house owner to ask if they could be there to open the door and let me get something out. we made it at seven o'clock. The sun had already disappeared at that time. the sick snow covered the street. i wished to call a taxi, but i can't because of taxi companies' telephone. at last i had no choice but to take the bus. there was no bus that go from my old house to the new one directly, so i changed bus at the middle... but i forgot where i should stop and i go down too early... after i left the bus, i recognized that i made a wrong decision. the bus comes every 20 min, so i began to walk... it's cold and covered with snow, but my clothes was thin.... it's so hard and i feel terrible. luckily, after 5min walking i saw a taxi going through the road, so i stoped him and had a ride to the house i rent. the house owners are very kind and they had already waited there. i asked them if they can call a taxi for me to come back because i don't have a celephone, but they desided to take me home! i feel so good about that. how kind they are!
because it's too late yesterday when i came home, i wrote the post this morning.

Monday, November 27, 2006

1 more week left

it seems that the whole semester have only about 1 week left... What amazing! i just recognize that i have just studied four more months with scott, and it's really good time and i enjoyed of being his student. anyway... life is a long way to go, i cannot stop to have a rest, there is still hard work waing for me at the university. However, i already feel tired...
Some times people do things which they do not want to do, they do them because of needs. it is a sad thing if we are in this situation. To avoid this, may be i just need to find some interesting element in the work that i supposed to do.
Tell the truth... these are bu* sh* below because everybody knows this and basically sometime it's impossible to find.... i just get something to talk...
To be here, i think it's interesting to leave comments to others blog and get comments from other people. i think i am a silence person because i don't talk much... but my head is not that empty~haha it's nice to know other's opinion, life, or something else..
by the way, i believe in destiny, and i'll explain my opinion at the next post...

Tuesday, November 21, 2006

Move again

My life seems suffered from moving from one place to another... since last April, i changed my house address twice... tomorrow, it will be the third times... Am i crazy? i hate moving! but i can do nothing to avoid this... suffer from surroundings and bad friends... i'll find a good place with good people someday... that's my last wish...
Today i'm so suprised that a MT student named Melissa told me that she had read all the LEAP students' blogs! i'm shocked! My blog began from last September... and many students have that much... she told me it took her 8 more hours to do that... i really appreciate her behavior and i thought she will be a excellent teacher in the future. Acturally, once i tried to read my early posts, but ....(about 5min past) ... i just quickly review all the titles of my old blogs, and i nearly cry... about my past happy days... so many good days have past! Why the light of life is becoming darker and darker?? i feel sad...
i begin to think the beginning days when i came here... a totally fresh man, loney, but was meeting new friends every day! we eat together, have parties, and play cards... how time flies... i don't know why... every thing changes... including myself...
Thank you for reading...